Did God lower us into vaniy as Rom8 seems to say and did God form a body in Gen2?
Posted by Tony Hartog on April 17th, 2008 filed in Freedom Voice Newsletter, Text Teaching MessagesComment now »
Hello All. This is a question concerning “did God form a body in Gen2?” I was asked that question. From that reference, I want you to listen to these messages below that relate and give you the answer to the questions you have about did God lowering the Creation into vanity as Rom. 8:20 seem to tell us. Gen 1 gives us the true Image complete Spirit Soul and Body. God does not give us a body in Gen 2, for Gen 2 tells us that the lord God forms a man, note, not a body but a man, so that is false, God already begot us complete Spiritual Man and Woman, not without a body as some may think. Gen 2 gives us a sense of body that is false, as sense tells us of pain, of lack and fear of death. All these concepts are formed by the carnal mind that has a belief in 2 powers, good and evil. So enjoy the tapes and message on the Pain Body, don’t think to much, just listen and understanding will come to lighten you up.
April 17, 2008
Acknowledgement.
The original term ’Pain–Body’ found in this letter is a reference taken from the Book: ‘The Power of Now’ by Eckhart Tolle. Eckhart inspired me to see the contrast as to what the pain body formed by the un-conscious past and the true Body which is Christ IS here and now!
As we all experience psychological pain due to our past human experience as independent personalities, I found the need to write in this issue about that which was shown ME as to what the Body of Sin or Pain Body really IS. In my address, writings and audio messages, I have taken the liberty to use this applicable term ‘pain body’ to further our knowledge as to why all this pain and suffering is happening to most people in the world today.
TRANSCENDING THE PAIN BODY
1.This is a time to remember who we are for we have forgotten that we are the offspring of God, the only begotten of the Father.
2.It is a time to remember the purposes of God that have been veiled because of a form that we have taken on which is not ours.
3.I would call this sense of life that is governed by time ‘The pain body, the Flesh sense of Life formed by years of living in a false sense of I.’
We may ask, “What is a pain body?” Well the Scripture tells us that to be present with the ‘body’ that formed and was controlled by the memories of the past is to be absent from the Lord. The Lord is the eternal I AM, the present tense Now Being that is not subject to time or space. Can you see that? We have always thought that our flesh and bone body is our true body, but it is the way we think about our body is that what creates the problem, for really, our Body is incorporeal, it is Spirit, not flesh and blood and lives and moves in the Now. In our humanity, we have a false sense of being and in it, we may feel pain or anxiety, formed by what we remember, it causes this physical body to react, producing many forms of pain and fear.
The reason why the body reacts to the appearances of this world is why it feels the pain and the problems of life. It is because we have departed from our true sense of Being, the “I” our true Self that was in the beginning with God AS LIGHT IT SELF, perfect in harmony with all living!
· Ignorantly we live in a mistaken Identity, in this false sense of being we live by the memories of the past that haunt us and pain is experienced.
· However, don’t forget, our true sense of Being is Spirit-Soul and Body, it’s Life is Eternal, it’s Immortal, it’s Invisible and it’s Incorruptible.
However, we have taken upon ourselves a form of godliness, forming a realm where Murphies Law works, denying the Power of Now, as it only lives in the Past or project itself and lives in the unreality of psychological time. It is because we also have a false sense of God, we became moralists and we lost our sense of being one, the Body of Christ that contains all what we will ever need for all eternity. In other words, we have taken upon ourselves a form of God-likeness, but it is not the True God-likeness, and especially if we have a false body sense, governed by a sin consciousness.
I received an email from a Christian brother who presented to us the contrast between human dramas’s that in fact represent and forms the pain body. However, wonderful these psychological helps appear and may seem to improve our relationships and even health to our bodies, the revelation of Christ Jesus is the essential Salvation to our whole being, who translated us all into the new order of Now, it is the only way to freedom.
Jesus, in His ascension delivered us from the time and space realm, where the pain body forms as it lives in the anxiety of experiences of fear and lack, memories of the past. Now in the Body of Christ, past memories as they are the cause of the pain body were erased by the blood of the Lamb of God, never to be remembered.
What does the pain body represent in terms we can understand?
The Pain-Body is a ‘viewing together’ of the moral thing controlled by that we feel and think our body IS. In this common viewpoint and we do not realize that our bodies are but instruments of our spiritual life. The body cannot sin, it has no brain, the body takes on the form of what we feel and think in our hearts. Can you hear this? In our religious concepts and because we like to believe that we have a sinful body, we also believe that God looks from a distance and checks us out whether or not we are doing the right thing in this thing we call body and that forms fear and guilt; both are the building blocks of a pain body.
· There is however no such God watches us, there is no such body either. What we call our physical frame my body, but is it, no, our feelings about body are illusion? The True Body is Christ, the Substance of all Life, invisible to human scrutiny a spiritual dimension from where all energy flows and because it was never born. This Christ Body can never sin, it is ordained and maintained by a loving Father who sees you perfect and whole. Think on this, you already have an eternal body already in the Heavenly Sphere.
I get messages from the Internet that is very profound intellectually and theologically, but the moral feeling we have of body holds us down and we find no real help, leading us into more darkness. The writers talk about whether or not Jesus is the Deity of God or whether Jesus pre-existed, the significance of the Virgin Birth of His Body and how we relate to God and whether or not we are created or begotten. All these doctrinal viewpoints are constantly coming to me, which really do not help us to be free us from our sense of pain and the disease and fear of death we experience in Adam the man of flesh, therefore, we must abandon all these psychological applications for improvement.
Why is there so much discussion on these irrelevant subjects as Jesus said: “No body can come to the Father but by Me! Psychological and evolutionary teachings can help on a human level, but they do not save or heal us do they now? It is because people have lost their feeling of Love and belonging to God our Father who upholds all by the Word of Its own Power. In our dream sense of human living we are trying to understand the workings of the Spirit in our lives psychologically, but we will never find freedom from pain and fear through them. We have forgotten our sense of Life as given to us in the beginning. We have forgotten that we are the only begotten of God and in this feeling of belonging, we no longer have a Pain Body to deal with, that is wonderful, no longer be governed by fear and sense of lack. It was through One Mans disobedience that we all sensed a feeling of nakedness, fear of death and judgment came and we lost our way in our flesh and blood sense of life. Flesh and blood can never inherit the Kingdom, and not even profound psychological teaching can bring us back to where we belong, a Place that Jesus prepared for us where nothing can enter to even form a pain body. Now in Christ we must return to the Fathers House, that is, if we want to be free from the “pain body” in which we suffer.
Rev. 21:22-27 (MsgB) But there was no sign of a Temple, for the Lord God—the Sovereign-Strong—and the Lamb are the Temple. [23] The City does not need sun or moon for light. God’s Glory is its light, the Lamb its lamp! [24] The nations will walk in its light and earth’s kings bring in their splendour. [25] Its gates will never be shut by day, and there won’t be any night. [26] They’ll bring the glory and honor of the nations into the City. [27] Nothing dirty or defiled will get into the City, and no one who defiles or deceives. Only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will get in.
Remember, it was because of a false sense of God and body that we created a god of the mind, to worship and to pray to, whom we think can save us from our fear and pain, and in ignorance, we pray long prayers and nothing happens. Why does God not answer our prayer? Let me tell you that in the final analysis that what we pray to is but Idol Worship. What we worship is but a mind formed god, an Idol is a thing that does not work, it is a facsimile formed in the UN—consciousness.
Ascending into our true Body
I have just completed writing our monthly letter for March 2001. It’s called, “The Ascension into the Christ of God”, in other words, we now begin our ascension back to the beginning, where we had an immortal body, eternal, where pain, guilt or fear cannot enter.
· In the beginning, which is always now, there was no time to oxidize the body, as time is a product of the carnal mind, it has no power, and it is a fixation of the mind. Now we see it age every day. In the beginning, the true body we are was totally maintained and sustained by the Fathers Presence and is the true incorporeal Body; it could not die as we see bodies die today.
· Oxidization is the disintegration of the cells of the mind formed body and it dies, as this body is but a concept formed by Adam as he began to see it naked, but God or Christ did not form it. This concept of body disintegrates as the light of our true Identity dawns in our awareness. Disintegration of the cells of the body is due to time and space that activates the aging process. Death comes only when we live in this time governed concept of body where it oxidizes and return to dust, for it is but a temporal thing that we have formed out of fear, it was never ordained of God our Father who is the generator of the Body eternal and immortal. Read my writing: (The Nature of Body}
2 Cor. 4:16-18 (MsgB) So we’re not giving up. How could we! Even though on the outside it often looks like things are falling apart on us, on the inside, where God is making new life, not a day goes by without his unfolding grace. [17] These hard times are small potatoes compared to the coming good times, the lavish celebration prepared for us. [18] There’s far more here than meets the eye. The things we see now are here today, gone tomorrow. But the things we can’t see now will last forever.
That is what happens to the body if we live in a sense of separation from the Presence of God. In the feeling of separation, seeing the body separate from Life as a whole, we subject it to time and we surely have what we fear! Time is but an unreal thing but it causes the pain body to begin to form it, and dying we die. Do you hear those of you who still think on a psychological level?
1. We all know the Scripture, “In the Beginning “God”.
2. We may say, “When or where is the Beginning?”
3. Was the Beginning ten billion or so years ago? No!
4. The Beginning is always here and is always now
5. You are that Now Being, without father or mother, begotten As God’s offspring.
Now is where we live, move, and have our being, no longer are we subject to time or a body timeframe of 70 to a hundred years, now we have a sense of eternity in our hearts and minds. It is wonderful. We must there for reckon our past concepts of body dead and begin to live in the Body, which Jesus prepared for us an immortal eternal Body without painful memories of the human past, now dead in Christ Jesus. It is wonderful. The Body of Christ is your true Body, where nothing can enter that defiles you or make a lie. The feeling of this new body stops the oxidizing and aging, delivering us from the psychological pain of past memories. All humanity lives in time and space and in our feelings of past or fear of future, we have no access to the true Body, there fore we must be born again of the incorruptible Seed, which is the Word of God that abides forever. It is not until our minds no longer think in terms of memories and we only live in the now realm where the flowers grow will we see deliverance coming to our present state of being that maybe up till now have some form of disease or lack of supply. Do you hear the mystery of Body in this lesson, can you take it?
Jesus fulfilled time and space; he delivered us from the fear of death and destroyed that thing that had the power of death that is the devil and ushered in the immortality of the body, can you hear this, you who are reading this letter? Heb2:14
2 Tim. 1:7-10 (KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. [8] Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; [9] Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, [10] But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
God has no past and God has no future, neither do you have a past, for if you have past memories, you will continue to suffer in the pain body. However, when you live in the Now of Being and you present your body a living sacrifice, Holy and acceptable to God which is our reasonable service you will experience healing and restoration. Rom12:1-6
Eckhart Tolle remarked and I quote: “If we live in the past, and fear the future we create for ourselves ‘a pain body” Unquote’. I agree with this analyses, for In God’s presence, there is fullness of joy and at His right hand, there are pleasures for evermore, that is where I live and move and have my being”
To be continued.
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Posted by Tony Hartog on April 13th, 2008 filed in Freedom Voice Newsletter, Text Teaching Messages2 Comments »
Abel sacrificed blood.
Actually, sacrifice happened before that, because of ‘the conscience’ or what they called the Lord God provided skins to cover the nakedness of men. Man was not naked; therefore, this is a lie as it controlled humankind for thousands of years, thinking that God provided these skins to cover their nakedness. No beloved, it was but his sense of moral wrong that caused religion to appear as the Taboo of God watching us seeing our behaviour, when in reality there is no such God). That is a controversy, did God lower man into the frustration of moral wrong, did God do that?
Did God tell them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil? No, He did not!
·God does not tell anyone anything;
God does not legislate Its own creation. You mean that God was not telling me to do something. No! Why not, because God is not a moral law God; He therefore does not legislate His creation to correct it in any way or form, He never will, hear this now, you will soon realize that we did not evolve or awaken, WE IS, it is our Christ Self that is now beginning to appear and what has been hid is already complete and whole, it does not need to evolve.
·Our Father is not moral law. God is Consciousness, pure light, life, expressing the pure essence you already are in truth.
· Ephes. 5:14 (KJV)
·Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
· Notice the call is to Christians, appealing their Christ Self to awaken.
· Does God judge? No!
John 5:21-22 (KJV) For as the Father raises up the dead, and quickens them; even so the Son quickens whom he will. [22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Judgment comes because of our own sin, it is our awareness of moral wrong that is how the moral law works. The wages of sin is death, it is not God who punishes us for sin, sin punishes itself; can you hear this? If we do not walk in the light as He is in the light, then we experience judgment, why, it is because we have a sense of guilt and fear of judgement if we do not live in His Presence that pervades all, in all and as all. We must walk in the light as He is light, then the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all Sin, and because we love one another, we can forgive 70 times 7. We love not because we are Christians nor do we love because we are good or we are friends or relatives, we Love because God is our Life and Being and we cannot sin.
1 John 5:18-21 (KJV) We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. [19] And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. [20] And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. [21] Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
We are finding out that even the love in families is not holding us up, we try, but it does not seem to last. The love that is among most Christians is not enduring, for it is but human love and does not seek or understand the Love of God that is impersonal. There is more and more stirring in the Body of Christ that will cause division, as we do not yet know what the nature of God is. Jesus said; “I did not come here to bring unity among people. I came to bring a sword to divide one from the other.”
·Jesus came to divide, not literally, of course not, but to bring us the definition of what God’s nature is as Love, to show us who our Father truly is.
·Jesus gave the definition of Fatherhood in this way. “I and My Father are ONE.”
·God is our Father, with no separation between–there can never be a separation between Father and Son or daughter.
Christ is not male or female.
Christ is the purity of God, Christ is consciousness expressed as you and I, a mystery that is now coming to us at this hour saying, God has no awareness of us as sinners, He only knows you as His beloved offspring. Do you feel loved?
Maybe because of our sense of separation, and because we have called ourselves sinners, we feel a sense of rejection. That is because we think that God by trail and testing, even using the devil as a tool, a way to come back to God. The belief is that God sent his only begotten Son, whose name is Jesus as a sacrifice for the world that we might be saved. This is not the truth; God does not require sacrificial blood to forgive you. Why not?
Because God does not know anything about sin and does not require sacrifice. Yes, Jesus lowered himself into this pit of noise we call our Adam nature, yes, Jesus sacrificed his humanity, but not to God. By dying as the last human, he destroyed that thing that had the power of death that is the devil. Yes, I agree, this is a sacrifice, and we have to experience this baptism into death, as in Adam all die, and in Christ, we all are made alive.
Psalm 40:2-10 (KJV) He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, a pit of darkness, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. [3] And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord. [4] Blessed is that man that maketh the Lord his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies. [5] Many, O Lord my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered. [6] Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. [7] Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, [8] I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. [9] I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest. [10] I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy loving-kindness and thy truth from the great congregation.
Your understanding has to be opened to see Jesus the Christ, as He IS now, so “I” am in this world!
·Can you see the difference?
I know that this revelation is mind-shattering, soul-upsetting, religion destroying reality, as this truth uproots everything we have ever believed in.
Jesus as the Lamb of God took away the mistaken identity that men has in this world by not resisting the Cross.
I ask you the question, did the death of the last Adam free us or has this sacrifice a different meaning? Christians believe that the literal blood that was shed should have made us free, did it? Ephes. 5:14 (KJV)
Now we see that it did not remove sin as there is now more evil and sin in the world then ever. We would be free, if we would know that the blood of Jesus is His Lamb Nature, imputing Love and Peace toward all living, no longer resisting the lies that form this world we have lived in for so long, do you hear this?
Rev. 12:10-11 (KJV) And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [11] And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Literal blood sacrifice is pagan and identifies with the old Hebrew Order of Sacrifice. The need for sacrifice was the result of one man’s Sense of guilt. Adam felt guilt and fearful, and in this moral sense of nakedness his own carnal mind formed an outside law god to either reward him or punish him, based upon his performance. This is all Hebraism; it is all Law and legislation. Hebrew Law is based on moral behaviour; it is not the Christ Awareness where sacrifice is not needed, as our hearts are now able to hear the Voice of the Father and obey Him without feeling guilt or fear of punishment. We can now cry Abba Father, without the need for sacrifice to appease the conscience.
Hebrews Chapter 10 1For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.5Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure.7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—In the volume of the book it is written of Me—To do Your will, O God.’ ”8Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The Holy Bible, New King James Version, ( Nashville , Tennessee : Thomas Nelson, Inc.) 1982.
There is a greater mystery of the nature of the Lamb comes to us showing us the principle of non- resistance to all evil appearance, as our understanding of resist not evil, develops. The nature of the Lamb of God has becomes the major way in which we can overcome the accuser of Life and remember, humanity as we know it today is the accuser. There is then a removal of the moral Adam mind as the mind of flesh still lives in a sacrificial mode. This is the body of sin, the Ego self, ruled by human feelings, both good and bad, e.g. it is the Carnal Mind!
Romans 8:3-8 (KJV) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Adam means; ’blood in the face–ruddy–totally governed by emotions and feelings–human feelings, the old order of things.
The natural man which is but the Phantom of Gen2, it has no true life, as it has no ordination and no promise was ever made to it, e.g. it must die. This phantom man cannot hear or see the Kingdom Realm; can you see this, those of you who are still searching? These human feelings of moral wrong and right are devils–good feelings and evil feelings alike coming out of the un-consciousness of Adam. Jesus, destroyed the old blood order by pouring out Adam on the Cross and through death destroyed the Devil, it is wonderful.
Good human hood is included in the death of the last Adam.
Good humanity is used to judge someone else bad, and if he or she does not agree with the one who is judging, he judges himself. Can you hear this for this is hypocrisy?
·Man is always judging. Woe unto man who’s breath is in his nostril, because he is always judging by appearances, does not know that God does not judge.
·The offence comes because we do not judge righteous judgment.
·It takes time in me and it takes time in you.
· We have to give ourselves time, not running away too quickly for when the sword comes, when the dividing of the chaff from the wheat comes, we start squirming, screaming, and want to get away.
·We say, “Who does Tony think he is?”
·I do not think. I know who I am!
·I do not evaluate myself with thought, because “I” was never born.
·I have no father and no mother; I have no beginning and no ending.
That does not mean I can do no wrong, as there is still some of the old memories percolating out of the un-conscious. Jesus did wrong. He cast out the moneychangers. He cursed the fig tree and called Peter the devil. All of these things are working in Adam and they are disturbing–they are upsetting, these things must be overcome by the blood or nature of “resist not evil”.
·Jesus was not very popular, are you popular?.
·Was Jesus popular?
His popularity could draw only three of His disciples to Himself, Peter, James and John. Two of those wanted to build another temple and start a new religion, so there was only one left… He said to His disciples, “Will you also leave Me?” They had sense enough to think, “Where will we go? You have the words of eternal life.” I do not think we can afford to draw away from this teaching.
It has nothing to do with me as a person, always remember this!
1. This is God speaking to you.
2. I have no personal benefit from this at all.
3. Jesus had no personal benefit from His teaching.
4. Everyone wanted to kill Him, throw Him off a cliff. His mother even left Him, His disciples left Him, and everybody left Him.
5. Why, because they were all human born of a law system, they needed to be born again of a new order of Life of which Jesus was the forerunner, the priestly order of Melchizedek..
When He was talking to the disciples He said, “I must go away now, because I must keep My mouth shut, if I continue to speak, you will tear Me apart with your bare hands, His own disciples. “The prince of this world is coming, the god of this world that controls all of humanity.”
·It is not just the evil humanity that is anti—Christ, neither is it the fellow who is committing adultery or doing bad things who accuses and is in sin. No, the complete religious realm is evil as it is all generated out of the old Hebrew order—and eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth, will crucify the Son of God again when He appears.
·Do not ever think that this is not so for it is.
·He came to His own and His own crucified Him. It happens all the time until the devil, the accuser of the brethren who accuses day and night, is overcome by non resistance—resist not evil.
Revelation 13:4 this is speaking about the dragon and it says, “Who is like unto the beast? And who is able to make war with him?” In other words; it is evident that you cannot fight the devil with a sword, can you? The more you struggle with the devil, the bigger the dragon gets. “Tony, do you believe there is a devil?” Oh yes!
When I first found out what Satan was, I had the shock of my life. I was looking in the mirror while I was shaving and I realized where that devil was, what he does, how subtle and deceitful he works because he thinks he is a Christian. It is strange, isn’t it, but that is how it works.
Rev. 13:5 “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies.”
These are not always bad things, sometimes they are strange and wonderful things. It makes the Christian believe, “This is a man of God, but is he or she?”
It always appears as a lying wonder, but it is always lying. “And power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.” All of these things are symbolic. It is never speaking of a particular person. Some people say that Mussolini was the Anti-Christ.
No, the Anti-Christ is never a person, place or thing; Anti-Christ is an attitude that works against the inner sense and holiness of God, something that works against the Lamb of God. The Lamb of God has to be spiritually realized and discerned as truth, before we can commune in the Godhead as One.
Rev. 13:6 “: And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His Name.” We know that the Name of God is “I”. What would be a blasphemy? To say “I AM GOD in my humanity” or “I am sick, lonely and desparate.”
It is all taking the Name of the Lord in vain. ‘I am sick’ is a lesser blasphemy perhaps, but it is still taking Gods name in vain.
·Jesus had to overcome the devil when He was tempted in the wilderness.
·Satan was not some green slimy monster; Satan is our own disposition that always resists whatever our experience may be. The enemy was His own disposition–His own flesh and blood.
·You may ask me, did Jesus have a disposition? Yes!
The Bible says, “What the law could not do, being weak through the flesh, God sending His only Son IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH–” Jesus had to overcome the devil. Sinful flesh is the devil. Sinful flesh said, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself off this temple and the angels of God will cover you with their feathers and look after you. If you are the Son of God turn these stones into bread.”
·The thought is the devil.
·The sense of self-preservation is the devil.
When attacked by some outside problem, and you are in a situation where you are resisting and trying to preserve your life; that resistance you feel is the devil. You are actually agreeing with him and that what you experience is not right. You must never believe that the devil has any power to kill you so you do not fight the devil with a sword. “Those who live by the sword will die by the sword.”
Was Peter the devil? That thing that made Peter want to save Jesus from going to the cross was the devil. “Resist not evil, agree with your adversary quickly while he is in the way.” That is God’s way. When you begin to feel a sense of indignation or resistance within you do not act, for that is the devil.
Rev. 13:7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindred, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him.” Notice that. “All that dwell upon the earth.”
Jesus said, “I go to prepare a place (non resistance) for you that where I am there you may be also.” That was not on the earth. Ephesians Chapter 2 says that ‘we sit with Him in heavenly places’. He has raised us up together with Him, above the earth, far above all the rulers of the darkness of this world, far above all principalities and powers. That is the mystery.
It takes spiritual discernment to understand what the book is saying. You can find it in Genesis; you can find it in Exodus, you can find it in any book of the Bible if you have eyes to see it. It is there, but it is the hidden pearl of great price, so you look after it, after you have found it.
·You do not throw your pearls to swine. What are the swine?
Are they animals, are they beasts or are they humans? Neither! Swine are those states of mind that have no spiritual insight into the mystery of God.
To be continued in next mailing.
Resist Not Evil! No1.
Posted by Tony Hartog on April 13th, 2008 filed in Freedom Voice Newsletter, Text Teaching MessagesComment now »
Resist Not Evil!
Psalm 27 A Psalm of David.1 The Lord is my light and my salvation; Whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; Of whom shall I be afraid?
Resist not evil, I —AM with you forever!
One thing have I desired and that is to worship and be receptive to that inner Christ that is born in my manger. The world does not like that, the human and religious worlds want some form of outward satisfaction or appearance that would satisfy their fleshly nature.
· Jesus said, “The reason I came into this world was to bear witness to the truth.”
· That means, the truth of what God says—is not what man says or the judgments men makes as to what they conclude to be spiritual and true.
· The judgments men makes of himself are all based upon what they see on the outside, observing the realms of good or evil, are blinded to understand what the Kingdom of God really is, and unfortunately die in their mistaken I-dentity, as God is not mocked, what ever a man sows so shall he also reap. It is because of the concepts men has of the universe, feelings and convictions they have entertained about God and Its offspring, a formation of a image in mind began to appear, a erroneous God was formed in their image and likeness, a belief that God knows about evil, but does He?
We know the contrast that we see in Genesis Chapter One when God says, “Let us create man in our image and likeness and let him have dominion, power and authority over everything that walks, flies, creeps and swims.”
· In other words, in the beginning, there was absolute authority and dominion in Creation, and that dominion was not through force, perfect authority was through the CONSCIOUSNESS realization that I AM the only power and activity. Christ, which is the image of God is the true Government that keeps all things by the Word of Its Power.
· Consciousness governs all things known as life, whether is appears as animal, vegetable, mineral or the constellations we know as stars and planets, God upholds everything by the Word of His Power, without ever failing.
· He is not trying to uphold the universe or to do something about the universe to change or improve it in any way, it is already perfect and holy, and therefore, God does not try or attempt to do something for you or against you, you are already perfect and whole. Hebrews 12:14 (KJV)
· Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Why is that, why do we no longer judge anything by its outer appearance?
1. Because God has no awareness of good and evil.
2. God IS and that is full stop.
3. He just “IS”.
4. God our Father is the maintaining and sustaining presence that keeps creation in His perfect Love and Will, that is all there is to it.
Why do we have so much trouble in finding this balance ,why is there so much religion that teach doctrine and concepts as to what God requires, what He is doing, or is going to do? It is only man’s idea that God is going to do something. God never did anything. God has always been the “IS” and not the “doing.”
1. God does not do anything.
2. God does LETS His rain—fall on the just and the unjust without respect of person.
The LET is a different thing from the DO. “He lets His rain fall on the just and the unjust” without respect of persons, because He is not aware of sin.
1. He is not aware of evil.
2. He is not aware of good.
3. He is not aware of you as an individual.
4. He does not know you as Tony or Martha.
5. He knows you only as His beloved child in whom He is well pleased.
6. Is He pleased with you because you are a Christian? No!.
7. He does not know what Christians are.
Christian is a term that means Christ awareness—it represents the one that is Christ aware. However, most so called Christianity is still under moral Law as they see themselves as being separate from the Father, the Cause of all life.
Christ awareness means that one is born again of the Spirit of truth, no longer knowing our self, born of flesh, but born of the incorruptible Seed, Christ the true Image veiled by personal sense living from the foundation of the world
John 1:10-14 (KJV) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not. [12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1. Christ awareness is Christian.
2. That does not mean Tony is a Christian, because Tony is not a Christian.
3. Tony, the human is dead, crucified in the Last Adam, Tony does not evolve.
4. Tony is dead and Christ is now my life and the reason why I am on this planet Earth.
5. Galatians 2:18-21 (KJV) For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. [19] For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. [20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. [21] I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness comes by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Tony was crucified with Jesus, Tony cannot be a Christian, Tony, known after his birth is but a phantom without hope in this world, e.g. the human died and Christ was raised from the dead .
Now Tony has to reckon he is dead unto sin and alive unto God. Alive unto God means that I have now an awareness of what God says in my silent listening, not what my conscience dictates, this is being alive unto God.
God says, “You are My beloved child in whom I am well pleased.” That is what God says, can you hear this? The Church says; “Tony you are a sinner.” Yes, Tony is a sinner, but Tony is not what I am, I am not Tony, I am begotten of the incorruptible seed of God, which is Christ, that makes all the difference.
1. Do you understand, are you listening to the inner Christ?
2. What do you mean; God does not know anything about good or evil?
I want to talk about this, because the complete sacrificial sense of worship that exists today in the church has come about because Christians still believe God knows something about evil and is gradually testing and evolving us to bring forth sonship. If God knows evil, He must also require some form of restitution because man fell, can you hear this?
Man began to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, disobeying what he called God, not realizing is was not God that he disobeyed, it was his own fear that caused Adam to fall and consequently devolved into outer darkness. What did he then disobey? Man disobeyed his own sense of right, he disobeyed his own “I” ness, and started the sense of moral wrong, which is ‘called a sin-consciousness’.
Remember, God has no sense of right and wrong, only Adam the man of flesh has a sense of guilt and fear of death. God does not say this person is naked and that person is dressed, this man is a Baptist, a Pentecostal, or a Kingdom preacher.
1. He said to Adam when he hid himself, “Who told you that you were naked?
2. I didn’t tell you that you were naked.” “Well, I’m afraid.”
3. “Who told you what fear is?”
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Tim. 1:7-10 (KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. [8] Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; [9] Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, [10] But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
The human consciousness known as humanity is but a sense of separation from the living presence of God, it has no ordination; hear me now, this is vital truth, humanity is not a God created Realm of life and does not evolve; it has no purpose to exist in God’s economy.
Out of that, a sense of separation we now call humanity, formed and out of it the sense of sacrifice came about.
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The Witness of the Son of God-No1
Posted by Tony Hartog on April 11th, 2008 filed in Text Teaching MessagesComment now »
Light of the World Ministries
April 11, 2008
The Witness of the Son of God
John CHAPTER 8:12-19
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying;
“I am the light of the world: he that follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. Jesus answered and said unto them; “Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. “Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. “
And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. “It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. “I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.”
Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father?
Jesus answered, “Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.” Christ Jesus is the Son of the Living God; it is by His Spirit that we recognise the True Saviour. Christ Jesus is the only witness who can reveal the true Nature of His own BEING and the Nature of all living, which is Christ the Image of God, not humanity that is here to kill and to destroy for humanity is the father of lies.
The Witness.
A witness does not speak of his own knowledge, but speaks of Him who sent Him, to bear witness to the Truth, that is what I have seen I have spoken. In a courtroom, a witness mounts the witness stand, not to interpret his own observation, but simply to tell what he has seen!
A witness bears witness, to what he sees, or what he, or she, has seen taken place.
Jesus never at any time said, I am healing the sick or raising the dead or feeding the hungry.
No, no beloved, Jesus said: “I of myself can do nothing, but I always bear witness of what I see my father do!”
In other words, Jesus is saying “This is what I see, what I see, I do!
It is not me as a human, who is doing it, it is my Father that is doing the work; can you hear this? This takes away all responsibility away from our independent life urge to do good!
Jesus bore witness to Gods power. Jesus never claimed to have any power of Him—Self. The nature of the Son is a state of consciousness that only and always hears the word of the father speaks from within.
In silent meditation, He is receptive, watching the Father at work.
The nature of the Son is being a beholder of the activity of God, without having an activity of his own. In the Fathers Consciousness, we no longer have any human desire or interest to gain wealth or health. When people come to me for help, I take no notice of what they tell me, as to what is happening to them, for that would put me up as a healer or councillor of some kind to alleviate for instance a pain, disease or sense of lack.
No, in every case that confronts me, I am only aware of the activity of Grace, I do not bear witness to what appears to be disease, lack or fear of death or what religion or metaphysics teach. What I am aware of, is God’s willingness to reveal his only begotten Son to Me, the eternal substance of all form, the reality of All Life, so I do not have any responsibility to heal or to council, I know that My Father will take care of it.
Remember, disease, sin, lack or any other human failure is not a created reality!
God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, the pattern offspring shown to us on the Holy Mount, (Transfiguration) to us to bring us back God’s Life whic